Do NOT read if haven't seen SAW movie yet (SPOILERS)

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  1. Franco

    Franco Weekender

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    Well, the title of this has the warning about it. Specially, 'cuz all of the movies are linked to each other in explanation.

    What I wanted to ask is... Does SAW II has the biggest twist in 2000's american movies? That thing of been watching thru video something that had happened in the past as if it was happening right now in LIVE VIDEO was extreme! It totally blew me out! Love this one! It's incredible! I get that the pressure of having a son involved and stuff can really make someone believe it's happening, well, he's being filmed, but it was a past thing and he was all the time just meters way from him in that box with oxygen!

    What a great saga! Love those Jigsaw speeches in tape :)

    Ain't that twist and Sleepaway Camp's rank as some of the best in movie history?
     
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    I don't think anything can top the shock value of Sleepaway Camp's ending. I remember the first time I saw it, I already knew ahead of time what was going to happen (as every one of my friends who are horror fans wouldn't stop going on about it), and it STILL shocked me in its blatant, full-frontal execution.

    To be honest, I'm not a fan of the Saw series as a whole. I know it's usually frowned upon to use the term 'torture-porn', but those just aren't my kind of films. I find torture for entertainment to be highly disturbing (I barely made it through Hostel.)

    That said, I DO like the first Saw. It's a smart little thriller and when I first saw it, I knew nothing about it or its finale so it bitch-smacked me in the face.
     
  3. wago70

    wago70 Surviving on nostalgia

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    I thought the first SAW had a nifty ending. I liked the tricky SAW II ending, too.
    (on a side note, Sleepaway Camp's ending was a nice twist but the so called shocking image was odd, cheap-looking and rather hilarious.)
     
  4. old-boo-radley

    old-boo-radley They stay the same age...

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    Sleepaway Camp's ending gets way too much credit. So she's a boy... who cares? What in the movie gives it any merit? It's derivative of Psycho, except Psycho's twist actually made sense and made you re-interpret the movie. In Sleepaway Camp, the so called twist means next to nothing.
     
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    ...and they're actually making Saw 8 now. :lol:

    I thought the first three Saw films had great plot twists, but after that it just got really ridiculous.
     
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    I thought the first Saw was clever in a way that didn't really make any sense if you spent any time thinking about it, but was interesting. I totally lost interest in the series after that one though.
     
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    I enjoyed the first SAW. Pretty unique and was shot well. Number 2 was ok, but not as good the original. SAW III started the "CSI: SAW" plot line where the police work was getting more screen time than the horror. Part IV was even more crime scene investigation heavy to the point where I checked out the series completely (not to mention it was completely nonsensical at this point).

    I understand why this part of the plot took the forefront, crime shows were super hot at the time (and still are I guess). But it doesn't make for a good horror movie.
     
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    I did like the twists in 1 & 2, but didn't think the series got really interesting until IV. IV-VI were just great, loved getting all the Jigsaw backstory and how the series seemed to onion in on itself with all these different layers from the past. Really an interesting series considering most sequels just rehash the previous ones without really adding anything to the continuity. It was running out of steam by the 3D installment, but I'll always be down for a new one if it comes out.
     
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    The genius of the SLEEPAWAY CAMP ending is not about what it means but more HOW it shows it. I get a great thrill watching this in crowds that have not seen the ending and seeing how they react. Many will think they have it all figured out and then the shock comes along. Even people who know how it ends still get a jolt. True, it's nothing deep or meaningful, but for a visceral shock there isn't much more memorable.
     
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    This is something that was going to happen eventually because the ending of Saw 3D left a lot of shit unanswered.
    Who were those three guys in the pig masks that helped Dr. Gordon capture Hoffman? What ever happened to that journalist from Saw VI? How did Jigsaw convince Gordon to join his cause?

    And, this is just a theory now, I think the opening of Saw 3D (with the three people inside that glass case in front of the crowd) takes place after the events in that film. So either Jigsaw had a much grander plan in mind that he did not reveal to Amanda, Hoffman or his wife, or Gordon has completely gone off the deep end and is taking matters into his own hands. What ever the case may be I am down for another Saw film. Modern horror feels kind of empty without the Tobin!
     
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    In Tobin We Trust.
     
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    wago70 Surviving on nostalgia

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    THANK YOU! I completely agree.
     
  13. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    Saw 4 was a chore to try and figure out, after 10 viewings or so I think I can almost keep the timeline making sense. I was getting sick of the series at this point also, but they came back strong with 5-7 which are probably my favorites of the series. Don't write it off yet, esp. if you've made it through 4. Try the rest, they are so much better.
     

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