Back in the game with a new player

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  1. Dave

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    It seems like the type of thing people (not me) would lose a lot.

    Rhett and In were chatting about how so many used LD players don't have remotes. I think many end up in closets and those remotes just end up in sock world.
     
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    Remotes easily get forgotten. Hell, last month I sold my old plasma 42" to a good friend. We took all the time to pack it in his car securely, etc etc, then 4 hours later he calls and says "you never gave me the remote". Sure enough, I didn't.

    Then there's the rather ugly truth that a lot of the electronic goods we're buying on E-bay may very well be stolen. Most thieves don't take the time to find the remote when they're stealing A/V gear.
     
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    Ack! I should have paid closer attention to the connections of the HD+. The output to the television is that weird VGA (but not VGA) to component cable. I don't have one. Sure, it was only 3 bucks at Monoprice, but I bumped up the shipping to overnight so I have it before the weekend (had I known I'd need it, I'd have ordered one on Sunday but could have chosen normal shipping). Oh well, I'm only out an extra 3 bucks on the overnight. But I can't check it out till Friday now.
     
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    What's the verdict Paffendorf???
     
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    Going to do some comparison testing tonight. I've got the HD+ connected, and it did not wow me. I do like the user interface and remote (WAY better than the Faroudja), but I don't know if I like the picture. I watched Fall of the House of Usher over the weekend, and there was one scene where Vincent Price was playing the lute. He held the lute at an angle, and the strings were like stairsteps. That might be a good scene to do a A/B comparison to, unfortunately I only have one component in on my Plasma, so I'll have to unplug cables to do it. I'm thinking of using my phone (a Nokia Lumia with HD) to do the screenshots.
     
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    I definitely find it superior but clearly there are issues with the one you sent to me. HD+ wins on default settings in my Samsung plasma. I have been enjoying discs everyday. I got the Video Essentials yesterday too, and the DVD today with filter.
     
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    Dave, here's a side-by-side comparison of the Iscan and the Faroudja. I think there's a very, very slight improvement with the Faroudja. Look at the lettering of "Snell & Wilcox". It's slightly finer with the Faroudja. I think the Iscan has a little more blooming (a term you're probably very familiar with if you went through the Video Essentials disc). I might be able to dial it down a bit.

    Either way, I don't think there's a clear-cut better solution. I'll probably keep the Iscan and the Faroudja, and sell my other Faroudja.
     

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    The jury is still out how the Iscan handles LD, but I used it this weekend to scale an HD signal for a film festival. It was amazing.

    We have a hard drive that we got from overseas that contains a thousand or so old Chinese movies. The output is HDMI. In the past, I used an old Gefen scaler but the picture was total ass. We had to though, as the projector doesn't have HDMI inputs, and it's not HDCP compliant (meaning when I try to send it an HD signal, the hard drive will shut down the output due to the non-HDCP compliance).

    I've since acquired some HDCP-removing hardware, but there ended up being a sizing problem. It was only putting out an image that was a quarter of the size of the screen. No one in their right mind would pay to watch a movie in a theater like that. So I went home and got my Iscan, and with a little tweaking I got a gorgeous image that filled up the screen. In scope, no less!

    I don't know if I'll make it a part of my HT, but it will definitely be used in future film festivals!
     
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    I'm glad I kept all these video processors; my Faroudja died on me over the weekend. Honestly, it was a relief, as my first thought was that the laserdisc player died. I popped in A Nightmare on Elm Street (RIP, Wes!), and there was a ton of black dots on the picture. Oddly enough, it played fine just a few days prior when I spun the Criterion LD of Kurosawa's Stray Dog. The OSD of the Faroudja was fine, leading me to believe it was the player.

    As a last ditch effort, I bypassed the Faroudja and fed the video signal directly into the HDTV, and the picture didn't have the black dots. Whew! My 704 is good, but the Faroudja is not. I tried accessing the service menu of the Faroudja and couldn't, so I think it's on its last legs.

    Now I have to dig through the garage. I think I still have another Faroudja NRS, and if not, I do have the Iscan HD+, which right now is only used at my film festival for Mystery Kung Fu Theater.
     
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    Believe it or not I sold my LD player. Haven't used it in a while. I would like to get an even higher end one but at this point I can't trust my nearly 3-year old twins not to wreck it. Going to give it a year and then hunt down possibly a high end muse capable player.
     
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    Dave:

    I see earlier in this thread you had your player serviced by Kurtis Bahr. Do you have his contact info? I wanna see about replacing the sticky pad on the clamping mechanism. I took it apart to clean it last week, and there's a a small section where the pad has worn off. I'm hoping he can just send the part, rather than me packing up my precious 704
     
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    I just got my grip ring from Pioneer. Hope it fixes my 704, or it might be in the mail to Kurtis...
     
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    He did good for me. It's always stressful shipping an LD player no matter how well you pack it.
     
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    Anyone remember this format? Or this thread?

    It's about to make a comeback (I hope!) at CinemaPaff!

    When we last visited LD as a format, my 704 wasn't spinning the disc. Just a "whizzing" sound that I attributed to slippage. So I replaced the grip ring, to no success. I'd resigned myself to sending it to laserdisc guru Kurtis Bahr, but I was dealing with a bout of unemployment as well as a serious reluctance to pack up my very heavy Pioneer player for cross-country shipping.

    I don't know what inspired me, but I was browsing YouTube videos and saw someone with the exact same problem, and they fixed it by just using a few washers to shim up the top clamp; if it clamps too tightly, a clutch engages on the motor. THAT was the "whizzing" sound I heard (I thought it was a dead motor). So I tried it, and the discs began spinning, but quite wobbly and it shut off after just a few rotations. I tried various combinations of shims and tightness, and it didn't work. Finally I put in an audio CD. It actually got up to speed, but after about 7-8 seconds it actually yanked the top clamp right out of its frame.

    So I started taking some pictures and videos and conversing with said guru Bahr. He asked about the locking arm of the clamp, and there didn't appear to be one. So, $50 later, a new clamp is on its way from Virginia. Let's hope it gets me up and running again, because I have a LOT of horror on LD I haven't watched in years. Literally.
     
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    It's all gone. All gone! I have framed lasers on my wall to pay my respects. Never say never but unlikely I ever return to LD. I have fallen in love with cloning images of my blurays and sticking them onto eight TB hard drives.

    Having said that, I do love self repair so good for you for figuring it out. Love YouTube videos like that. I actually just made a repair video on my own. It was for a nearly 30 year old kerosene heater in my living room. I changed out the blower motor on it and felt pretty bad ass about it. Next year I might tackle the burn chamber. Bring it!!!

    Update us with how you made out.
     
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    Good Luck Paff! It is fun to tinker. I replaced the gears in my garage door opener and the main connector to the drum in my washing machine. Both parts under $15 including S&H. I take a certain pride in it but it's funny the single ladies seem to like it. Whenever they first ask about the house they want to know if I've done any repairs to the house and appliances. Married women couldn't care less. o_O

    I just dusted off the 'ole LD player the other day cleaning the shelves where is sits unplugged and unloved. I probably need to spin it up to keep it in shape (whatever shape it's in). Not sure there's anything I really need to watch on it any more. The Criterion LD of Dracula would still be it perhaps; is that the one with the full documentary? I'd still need to buy that. The Wizard of Speed and Time is the only other thing really.

    I've been eyeing the Mystery in the Wax Museum LD because it has the original color timing (the DVD and broadcasts have been digitally altered to add blue to the red/green 2-strip Technicolor) but I held off to get it for $10 max. It's been getting real close now on eBay but just a few bucks more. I was tempted to pull the trigger but I too am having bouts of unemployment so I felt it wise to stand firm at $10. But now word is UCLA is working on an HD restoration for Warner Archive coming next year so that's probably it on that.
     
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    Update: Looks like the motor is indeed dead. Found a source online, $96, and that's starting to make this repair a bit pricey. Not sure if I'll continue, though I probably will.
     

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